Marriage Agency Scams

Why are "Hot Russian Brides" (hotrussianbrides.com)
"Russian Love Match" (russianlovematch.com)
"Latin Love Ave" (latinloveave.com) & "Zolushka" (zolushka.net)
on my Black List?

NEW - If you have given money to this flat-out scam site, send emails of complaint to the following. We HAVE to shut down these criminals. It doesn;t have to be big and professional. Just let these places know that they are supporting criminals.

SECURESERVER.NET (go to their contact form)
VeriSign® (go to their contact form)
support@wildwestdomains.com

This is the same site. The system is terrible. It is the token system that so many other sites use to make money and nothing else. The first moment I saw the site, I cringed. For anyone that knows me, you know that my Spidey-sense is usually right.

If you go to some forum sites on the net, you will see many threads about these sites. Clients are really upset with the constant changes to policy. These changes do nothing but make the site more money and restrict services from the client.

There are also many reports of girls not wanting to do anything other than video chat. This is expensive for the clients and the number one money maker of the sites. There are rumors (NO LONGER RUMORS - I HAVE A LOT OF PROOF!!!!!!!) that the girls are getting some commissions from getting guys to video chat with them.

Updates - These are what resulted in these agencies getting moved to the Black List.

One guy chats with a girl (after being bombarded with requests from 20 year olds...he is 50.) who is a doctor. He asks what area of medicine and she suddenly ahs to run. They never shat again.

Next is a 3rd-person admission. A guy says that a couple girls confessed that there are some girls that go to the office (from 12pm to 6pm, for example) and chat. They are making the agency (and themselves) money.

A guy sent me a report stating that he had stayed awake, chatting on this agency for 24 straight hours. He did this twice. He noticed some women that also stayed online, chatting for 24 straight hours. But the webcams were not on all this time. So, you could not see who was doing the chatting. Obviously, the ofice staff was posing as girls.

As you may know, a feature of the site is the message center.
There are several categories of files there. Whenever a member selects another member as a "favorite" the selector show up in
the selectees account as an "admirer." When both the male and female members, reciprocate and likewise select the admirer as
a personal favorite, then that favorite changes designation in both accounts, to become a "match."

I was recently adding my 126th selection of a most beautiful girl
as a favorite, after which, almost immediately, she became a match. I also noticed the blinking green icon which alerted me to the
fact that she was then currently on webcam. I clicked on the icon to see her live, and thanked her for making us a match.
She didn't know what I was talking about. She was sitting in the TV studio, not answering email, nor responding to listings. This
girl spoke good English, and didn't need a translator. Even though she didn't personally select me as a favorite, she was not at all
concerned that some how, as if by computer magic, she had automatically been selected by some undetermined entity.

Thanks Jim!
I only wished I had seen your site earlier! Although I wasted a few thousand
dollars; you have probably saved me over $10,000. Like many of your other
testimonies, I too spent a lot of time (hours each day) "chatting" on "Hot Russian
Brides." Here's some of my observations that made me go "hmmm...:"

* I could tell that the women on the web camera were talking to more than just me.

* The more I talked to a particular woman, the slower her response. This seemed to
happen a lot with women without web cameras (web cams). I couldn't understand why
unless they were talking to many different guys. After a while, I started to get
frustrated because when you chat; TIME IS MONEY. The meter runs as long as you are
connected. It runs TWICE AS FAST when they have a web camera. I finally realized
that their objective was to "milk my account" for as long as possible. Talking to me was secondary…   :-)

* Women that chat on a web cam get irritated when you shift the camera off. In fact,
they knew once I turned it off. Until I "pulled my head out of my butt," I couldn't understand why that was such a big deal.
1. It wasn't like she could see me.
2. I had already seen her that day.
3. It would extend my chat time and save money and time that I would spend with her instead of “feeding the meter.”.

Obviously, they were getting something more from the web cam than my "charming conversation." :-)

*Although they desperately wanted me to come for a visit, only one of them would
give me a phone number. I kept wondering how she expected me to find her until I
realized (thanks to this site) that I was simply being "sucked" into part "B" of the
scheme; where I pay the agency to set up the meetings. I suppose the ladies make a
nice commission if they can get you to go there.

* Now Jim, I don’t have your “spidey senses,” but I think I possess a measure of
common sense. I try not to be cynical, but when I see a lady on-line at noon in
Florida time (8PM Ukraine time) and she is STILL on-line at 9PM Florida time (5AM
Ukraine time!!!); I have to call “BS.” It is a lot of the same women who are doing
this, and some of these women are HOT! When I first joined HRB, I chatted with a
few of them (and they were on a web cam). It was easy to tell that they had been
awake all night. However, I stopped talking to them once I became enchanted with
one particular lady (a 35 year old woman from Kiev).   Unfortunately, I caught my
particular lady (that I had been chatting with solely for over 5 weeks) doing the
same thing. We always had a “set time” to chat, then I would sign off.   I was
planning a visit with her and her family soon. We had chatted earlier (6PM Ukraine
time) and I wanted to surprise her with a letter and attach a new photo of me and my
adult children. It was 9PM Florida time (5AM Ukraine time the next morning) when I went to
send her a letter and to my suprise, there she was on a web cam. I could tell that
she was talking and typing to someone. Her English was good. She looked tired. Just
as tired as the ladies looked when I use to chat with everyone in the early morning
hours. She stated that she had waited for me all night (11 hours) to talk in the
morning. I told her that I had to go to bed but I had left her a letter with a
photo. I knew that she was not being exactly honest with me. She stated that she had
to leave also and would be back in 2 days for our normal chat (normally at 6PM
Ukraine time). Yet, that very next night she was again on-line at 3AM Ukraine time;
typing away to some guy.   I was disappointed with her to say the least. I was
easily spending over 2 hours and easily over $100.00 per day chatting with her. Do
the math: (7 x $100.00) x 5 weeks…   Yea, I had a little money invested in her on
correspondence alone….That is when I started checking out discussion forums and found out
about your site. If I had seen this site months earlier, I may be seeing a foreign
lady right now. You’ve got valuable info here and you have saved me a lot of future
trouble. What one of your earlier writer stated now makes a lot of sense and I’m
sure it is true; the ladies get paid a commission and this is nothing more than a
part time job for them. This writer was lucky to find an honest lady that told him what was really going on.

Jim, I’m not a guy who is or ever was “desperate for a date.” In fact, I am
currently seeing a lady from here in Florida. The reason I went looking for a lady
from the FSU because I wanted someone with values. I also stayed away from the 18-29
year olds. I also have the financial means to make any woman feel secure. I enjoy
kids, I work out and stay in good shape, and I live in a place where it is very
safe. I thought I had a good chance to meet a Russian or Ukrainian lady and lose my
singe man status. However, the only thing I lost was my money and time.

I would like to send this message out to all of the guys looking for a REAL RELATIONSHIP with a woman:

*Leave the Hot Russian Brides site alone!!!
*Don’t make the same mistake that I and others have!!
*Put your credit cards back in your wallet and move on!!

What a waste of time and money!!! I am sure there are many women in the FSU who are
really looking for a husband. However, I don’t think you’ll find any on this site.
For me, the most important thing to remember is that it has been easy to make up the
money I wasted; however, I will never be able to recover the TIME that I
lost…NEVER…I told my present girlfriend about my experience and we now laugh about
it. I have actually shown her this site and the women on-line. It has been over 6
months since I left the site, and yet many of the women we saw on-line are the same
as when I left. I see they have added Latin women to help draw more clients.
Anyway, it gave us a good laugh and it is good to humble yourself from time to time
and realize that there is “a little fool in all of us.”

Thanks again Jim…

MORE - Here is the best one. Has anyone noticed that many girls suddenly leave chat, especially when they are asked questions that require very specific answers? So, the girl appears to be offline, but you can go and see the girl ONLINE, at the other agency. HUH? Another guy noticed this many times, He told her that he had heard that girls get paid to chat on their site. Her eyes grew wide. Within 10 seconds, she had to go. Surprise. Has anyone noticed that they are bombarded with invitations to chat when you log in? Sorry, money is more important to Russian girls than men are.

Mar 2007 - Another letter from a guy...
Jim , my name is **** and I live in the USA. I have spent lots of money at "hotrussianbrides.com" I was a beginner and did not do my homework. just wanted to let you know that everything you stated about this site is correct. One of the girls did like me to the point that she was able to flash her number over the web cam. I called her and she did told me ALL girls work on some kind of commission. They have set schedules which they have to follow or they get "fired". She told me that the more guys they talk to (and the sexier the pics) the more money they get. She felt bad and left the agency. No wonder I was getting bombarded with pretty ladies wanting to talk to me. You have very good info in your site and I do really appreciated.

Aug 20, 06 - I got a letter from a guy that went to Ukraine to meet girls he had been talking to through HRB.
These are the facts of his report. I don't care what HRB's policy states. Here are the facts...

With HRB/RLM	With Other Agencies
Girl's contact info - must spend $1000 to get	$15 - $30
Maximum amount of addresses - 10	No maximum
Attestation forms must be given to agency 1 month in advance - not in policy	Attestation forms can be carried with you when you go to the agency's office
Other paperwork must be done 1 month in advance - not in policy	Most agencies do not have other paperwork. You can go meet the girls
You must make travel plans through the lady's agency.	You can usually make your own travel plans and meet girls at your leisure
The owner could inform his clients better, but does not want to	Most agencies try to give all info BEFORE the trip
The owner does not care what is said about him on the internet. He must be making good money.	Most agencies owners care about their reputation and work to keep it good
Paying $250 for each meeting. ($100 if you complain. $70 if you whine.)	$15 - $50
$50 for each subsequent meeting with same lady	Most agencies have a ONE-time fee.
A large amount of other complaints from this guy are actually common complaints that many guys have with many Russian offices. Basically, the Russian offices usually regard the foreign male client as someone who should give them money for whatever they want and take what he is (or isn't) given without saying a word about it. I would think that an agency that charges so much would treat its clients. But it seems that the cheaper, smaller agencies usually treat their clients better than the big, money grubbing agencies.

It is painfully obvious that the Russian offices are pulling the same crap that Anastasiaweb offices do.

hotrussianbrides.com
russianlovematch.com
latinloveave.com (new latin version of this scamming.)
zolushka.net